Reactions To Obamacare
Here are some interesting comments on David Horowitz’s post about the Obamacare bill. Notice the clueless Canuck commenting at the beginning. What is it with liberals who really believe that stuff is “free” if they don’t have to pay for it right there and then?
You are an idiot,
The Bill is not taking away any liberties that Americans have; health care is a basic amenity that all citizens should be entitled to. Look at other healthcare systems in most developed countries. Look at Canada and most of Europe! No one is turned away because they can’t afford treatment. How many people die every year because they can’t afford Health care? If you were diagnosed with cancer today could you afford the hundreds of thousands of dollars it could cost you to stay alive?
For patients not covered by health insurance, the typical cost of delivering a baby without complications ranges from about $9,000 to $17,000 or more – for a C-section without complications or a vaginal delivery with complications ranges from about $14,000 to $25,000 or more. In Canada and just about every other developed country – FREE. Just something to think about.- A Canadian.
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If there are some fools here that believe something is FREE, then they are expressing their foolishness. Someone has to pay for anything someone gets. A free society means that if you want something, then work for it or inherit it. If you want health care then you pay for it. Don’t come asking me to pay for it through a system that eats up 75% of the funds before they get where they are supposed to go. If you like socialized medicine where you live, then stay there and keep quiet, we don’t want it.
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Who do these idiots think is going to pay for this bill with rampant inflation and 10% unemployment? Look at the other countries where health care is “free” – long waiting lines, rationing of services, shortages of health care professionals and high taxes on all consumer goods. Do you want to pay $7 for a gallon gas like in Europe? It is NOT the government’s job to provide “free” healthcare to everybody. Show it to me in the Constitution. It is the individual’s responsibility to provide for his/her family and buy health insurance, just as they do auto insurance. If you want “free” health care, JOIN THE MILITARY and put in 20 years. Then you’ll get “free” health care for you and your family. The government took over GM. Are they handing out free Cadillacs? The government took over banks and mortgage institutions. Do you see them handing out free homes? How do you think “the government” is going to pay for “free” health care for everyone in this country? This is the same government that can’t run a monopoly like the U.S. Post Office or AMTRAK at a profit but can load thousands of pages of pork into a bill that NOBODY has read in its’ entirety. It has nothing to do with the color of the President’s skin. These damn Democrats, of ALL colors, have just bankrupted this country. We will not forget this and they WILL be held accountable.
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I live in Italy, whose universale health care system was slavered over in huge compliments to our then Catho-Communist government headed by Romano Prodi (which, by the way, behaved exactly like your Congress leaders: thousand-page bills kept secret until a few hours before voting and things like that). Well, I would just like to say that our system is hugely expensive, has taken power away from doctors and handed it to politicians and the bureaucrats they appoint, and ensures that everyone gets the treatment they need but not the time they need it. You can wait months and months and months for necessary exams, especially if you are elderly. And malpractice suits are rampant. Good luck.
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This is a one-two punch; the second punch will be the Immigration Reform. All the “independents” who will walk away from the Dem Party over this bill will be replaced by immigrants grateful for citizenship and “free” healthcare from the Dems. Our greatgrand children will still be paying for this bill; if there still is a USA in their lifetimes.
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The bill is/was neither about health or care. It’s all about votes. By passing this giant turd the dems have assured themselves another generation of loyal voters as they did with the New Deal and The Great Society. Think about it. What is the best way to guarantee someone’s (voters) loyalty? By making them dependent on handouts and entitlements. This was NEVER about healthcare. It’s a gateway political drug and assures the addiction of the next generation of democrat voters. Stevie Wonder could see what’s going on here.
March 22nd, 2010 at 5:14 pm
Hey, I am writing from the Center of Socialism, Germany. When I was a kid my parents brought me to the dentists. The mercury they put into my mouths in large amounts and the braces which destroyed my teeth were free, of course. The medical mistreatment that followed cause I did not know what made me sick was free of course. I am now in the 25th year of bed-riddenness in oh, so social Germany. I was allergic against the free mercury (free cheese in the mouse trap), I do not get any helath care at all. Absolutely nothing. When I tried to speak up I faced persecution – no-one shall touch the “free-German-shrine-of-state). I am one of the very few anti-socialists here in Germany and I would leave if I could walk , but, where to go? Surely not to the U.S. anymore. This subject is so very fast, I could go and on writing…I think that everyone is responsible for their own health, period.
March 24th, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Just one of the side benefits to letting the government make all your (health) decisions for you, Diana.
And pretty soon, because he owes the teachers unions big time, there will be a push to not allow either private schools or home schooling, because the government teachers will be at such a disadvantage.
Of course, the government has for decades told farmers generally what they could or could not raise, but now they’ll be telling them how to do it, too. By someone who’s only seen a farm from 30,000 feet flying to some important meeting or taking his/her family to Disney World. Then there will be soviet-style food shortages.
And, finally, in order to save us from AGW, there will soon be gas rationing, too. All to save the world, of course, and the fact that that destroys the last vestiges of freedom is a small price to pay for the freedom to pay outrageous prices for what we could easily produced in this country.
BTW, I’m a thorough believer that global warming is man-made. It was a theory created by men, promulgated by men, and men continue to play on the fears of the uneducated (or those unwilling to be educated), so, of course, global warming is anthropogenic: men thought it up and so it is. Reality and science has nothing to do with it.
March 24th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
@diana: Thanks for sharing your experience with us, Diana. I’m sure that’s what we can look forward to once Obamacare takes effect.